Friday, 13 July 2012

What to do when flirted with

While waiting for the next blog roll topic or to think of something else to blog about I'm going back to a topic the rest of the group wrote about before I joined: flirting. Most people wrote about a guide to flirting they had read, generally from the perspective of the flirter. After thinking about the topic for a bit  I've decided that rather than end up repeating what others have already written I'm going to write about being the flirtee.

A few examples:
A rather empty cafe in Amsterdam. My sister and I ordering some food to take away. The guy serving us chatting (in perfect English) and asking us questions about where we were from, what we were doing in Amsterdam etc.  Friendly, bored and lonely or flirtatious? Given all of our ages and the tone of his voice we thought the latter.

Late afternoon in a souvenir shop in Prague. Alone I walked in in search of a small souvenir or two and was greeted by a young man (who may or may not have worked there, I couldn't figure it out). The greeting didn't stop at "Hello, how are you? Can I help you with anything?" He went on to ask about my plans for that evening and whether I would meet him later so he could show me some of the cool bars and clubs. There was no way I was going to say yes, I don't think many girls traveling alone would. I hadn't seen it coming and didn't really know how to respond. I think I mumbled something about already having something to do and walked out quickly without turning around.

Walking from the train station to the hostel in Geneva.  Another young man who spoke English suddenly came up beside me. He started talking to me, asking me the standard 'where are you from?', 'what are you doing here?' questions. But he wouldn't be easily put off. He was determined to engage me in conversation and walk me to my hostel. After a while he got the message that I wasn't really interested and that I didn't need any help finding my hostel and left.

All of these could just be examples of friendly people wanting to be nice to a tourist but the fact they were all young men and the things they said and the unusual nature of each conversation suggested otherwise. (I may be widening the definition of flirting a bit.) The first situation was ok. It was more of a friendly chat and it ended naturally and easily. The second two were more awkward and I wanted to get away from them.

Things to think about:
How do you get rid of someone, especially a stranger, who you don't really want to talk to or flirt with? Are there some situations where it is ok to lie (and say you have to be somewhere or you're going to meet someone etc) or be rude and just tell them to go away (although I don't think I'd be brave enough to do that)? Should I be more open to talking to strangers or was I right to be suspicious and uncomfortable? Are there things you can do to not get in awkward flirting situations in the first place? (I know one girl who wore a cheap plastic diamond ring)

 From the perspective of the flirter: don't be weird or intimidating. If you want to flirt stick to people you know, comfortable situations and make it natural. If you want to be nice to a stranger or help a tourist think carefully about how you can do so, leave as soon as you've done what you set out to do unless it is clear they don't mind the company and are happy to keep talking to you, and choose your helpee carefully putting yourself in their shoes.

 Yes I did notice that all my examples are from overseas. I don't know if that's because NZ men are different or I just don't often end up in situations where I end up alone with strange men when I'm not traveling.


9 comments:

  1. When you're with other people also, esp in a foreign place, it generally makes the situation less awkard/worrying. Like maybe you would've been a teeny bit more on your guard with the guy in the cafe if your sister wasn't there, and maybe you would've felt safer in the Prague shop if you had a companion. I would anyway. When I'm walking around alone in Korat and Thai guys call out something or do the grin or whatever, I'm like "oh crap, keep walking" but when I'm with other people I don't mind as much and can even give them a smile at least.

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  2. Fair point about feeling uncomfortable and wanting to get away sometimes. But if you always "stick to people you know", how do you meet new people and make new friends? Especially as we are only talking about making smalltalk with people here. What do you think is the appropriate approach to chatting to and making friends with strangers, while travelling or otherwise?

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    1. Perhaps picking a more comfortable and natural setting for conversation like in a group or a hostel (or both). While traveling I talked more to strangers and made friends with people I met in a hostel and had dinner with and people in tour groups at attractions. It's easier when we have something in common to start a conversation about like finding somewhere to eat.

      At home I'm more likely to talk to people I don't know at some sort of event or church service or really anywhere there is a group of people. There's immediately something to talk about (or even someone to introduce you to each other) other than your name and what you do so conversation is easier and more natural.

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  3. Yeah, being with other people does make a difference. If I'd been with someone else when I'd first spotted a guy that looked kinda dodgy we could have talked amongst ourselves and the guy might not have tried to talk to me. Or if he still tried to talk to us the pressure wouldn't be all on me to get out of the situation and we could walk away talking and laughing about it not feeling awkward and a little creeped out.

    From what you said about Thai guys and what Kirsten has said about guys in Baltimore I'm starting to think that maybe there is something different about kiwi guys or kiwi culture in general.

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    1. Ooh, cultural differences between countries could certainly be an interesting area to explore. (-: What differences have people noticed?

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    2. It's not that bad in Korat really - a lot of Thais are prejudiced against dark people, so the upside of that is that I get less attention from guys than I would if i were white. :) Different story for a white girl - then they assume you're a rich foreigner (which you usually are) and may even start asking you questions about your visa etc. (true story. happened today, i'll tell you about it when i get home.) Plus Korat isn't hugely multicultural so even I stand out a mile, so a lot of the stares will just be that I'm different rather than that I'm pretty. People often know I'm a foreigner before I say a word.

      Of course not all guys in a place are like that. Just that there's a higher proportion of creepy ones - or perhaps the creepy ones are more forward. It's true guys aren't very forward in NZ, we're really very tame in a lot of ways.

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  4. Of course it is important to be careful to stay safe too. (-: But I think perhaps being open to making friends with strangers can be a good thing sometimes.

    One example: while I was in Penang back in 2010 I was chatting to a couple of girls (an American and a German I think) over breakfast at the hostel and we ended up hanging out over the next few days and seeing various tourist attractions together. I have never talked to them since, but having temporary friends like that while travelling like that can be quite good.

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    1. Ah, I posted this before seeing your reply to my first comment, due to intermittent Internet connectivity. So I guess you kind of addressed that already.

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  5. Aw Sarah! I love that I can picture all those situations with you in them, this is really cool post.

    My friend tells guys she doesn't have a number when they ask for it - it actually works here because some people don't! I don't know if it's ok to lie or not...I think that it makes the situation less awkward but it doesn't lessen the rejections. Just saying I'm not interested is ok too - if it's the first approach you don't have to feel bad because you you didn't waste there time. Often it's kinder to just say "no sorry" than to offer excuses...unless your excuse is that you have a boyfriend, fiancée, husband....that ones more readily accepted.

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